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WoW Forever Engineering Leveling Guide: 1 to 300
Engineering levels on its own parts: blasting powder, bolts, tubes and casings that later recipes eat. That makes the path long but cheap, as long as you keep what you craft. Forever adds a Reagent Bot for camps, a run of new SAF-T and EZ-Thro gadgets, and the same Gnomish or Goblin choice at 200.
Checked against the final beta datamine, build 1.60.1.70532, on . Overview and perks:Engineering page; every recipe: Engineering recipes.
- Confirmed0
- Datamined6
- Reported4
- Classic fallback6
WoW Forever is not out yet. Anything below, including the confirmed lines, can change at launch on November 4.
The short version
Our Engineering path takes about 394 crafts in 25 steps, 22 of them on trainer recipes. It opens with Rough Blasting Powder, and the biggest materials are 259 Mithril Bar, 243 Copper Bar, 140 Solid Stone.
- Reported At 200 skill and level 30 you can specialize in Gnomish or Goblin Engineering. The quest is expected to work as in Classic. wow-professions.com
- Reported Engineering kept its Classic skill ranges in Forever, so the old route still lines up past 225, untested. wow-professions.com
- Reported Mining is the partner: almost every step is bars or stone. wow-professions.com
Training ranks
| Rank | How to learn it in Forever | Status |
|---|---|---|
| Apprentice (1-75) | Any trainer | Classic fallback Warcraft Wiki |
| Journeyman (to 150) | Trainer, at 50 skill and level 10 in Classic | Classic fallback Warcraft Wiki |
| Expert (to 225) | Trainer, at 125 skill and level 20 in Classic | Classic fallback Warcraft Wiki |
| Artisan (to 300) | Trainer, at 200 skill and level 35 in Classic | Classic fallback Warcraft Wiki |
Your skill stops at 75, 150 and 225 until you learn the next rank, so train before you craft past the cap.
Engineering 1-300 path
Do not vendor the parts. Bolts, tubes, powders and Gold Power Cores made early are counted in the later steps' materials, and the shopping list below already subtracts nothing for them, so keep every one.
| Skill | Craft | Materials | Learned from | Colours (yellow / green / grey) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1–30 | ~33× Rough Blasting Powder | 33 Rough Stone | Trainer | 20 / 30 / 40 |
| 30–45 | ~21× Crafted Light Shot | 21 Copper Bar, 21 Rough StoneMade on the way: 21 Rough Blasting Powder | Trainer | 30 / 45 / 60 |
| 45–58 | ~28× Handful of Copper BoltsRuns into green: skill-ups get rarer at the end. | 28 Copper Bar | TrainerLearn level not in the client; counted from 45 | 45 / 53 / 60 |
| 58–60 | ~4× SAF-T Copper Bombnew in Forever | 8 Copper Bar, 8 Rough Stone, 8 SAF-T Tabs, 4 Linen CloakMade on the way: 8 Rough Blasting Powder, 4 Handful of Copper Bolts | Schematic: SAF-T Copper BombRecipe item, learn at 55. Vendor, drop or quest is not in the files. | 55 / 60 / 65 |
| 60–70 | ~12× Rough Copper Bomb | 24 Copper Bar, 24 Rough Stone, 12 Linen ClothMade on the way: 24 Rough Blasting Powder, 12 Handful of Copper Bolts | TrainerLearn level not in the client; counted from 60 | 60 / 75 / 90 |
| by 75 | Learn Journeyman first (from 50 skill, see the training table). Until you do, skill stops at 75. | |||
| 70–80 | ~14× Arclight Spanner | 84 Copper Bar | TrainerLearn level not in the client; counted from 70 | 70 / 80 / 90 |
| 80–95 | ~21× Copper Tube | 42 Copper Bar, 21 Weak Flux | TrainerLearn level not in the client; counted from 80 | 80 / 95 / 110 |
| 95–105 | ~12× Copper Modulator | 36 Copper Bar, 24 Linen ClothMade on the way: 24 Handful of Copper Bolts | TrainerLearn level not in the client; counted from 95 | 95 / 110 / 125 |
| 105–110 | ~6× Bronze Tube | 12 Bronze Bar, 6 Weak Flux | TrainerLearn level not in the client; counted from 105 | 105 / 130 / 155 |
| 110–125 | ~21× Silver Contact | 21 Silver Bar | TrainerLearn level not in the client; counted from 110 | 110 / 125 / 140 |
| 125–135 | ~14× Heavy Blasting Powder | 14 Heavy Stone | TrainerLearn level not in the client; counted from 125 | 125 / 135 / 145 |
| 135–145 | ~15× Whirring Bronze Gizmo | 30 Bronze Bar, 15 Wool Cloth | TrainerLearn level not in the client; counted from 125 | 125 / 150 / 175 |
| by 150 | Learn Expert first (from 125 skill, see the training table). Until you do, skill stops at 150. | |||
| 145–160 | ~18× Bronze Framework | 36 Bronze Bar, 18 Medium Leather, 18 Wool Cloth | TrainerLearn level not in the client; counted from 145 | 145 / 170 / 195 |
| 160–170 | ~14× Iron Strut | 28 Iron Bar | TrainerLearn level not in the client; counted from 160 | 160 / 170 / 180 |
| 170–175 | ~6× Gyrochronatom | 6 Iron Bar, 2 Gold BarMade on the way: 6 Gold Power Core | TrainerLearn level not in the client; counted from 170 | 170 / 190 / 210 |
| 175–195 | ~28× Iron Grenade | 28 Heavy Stone, 28 Iron Bar, 28 Silk ClothMade on the way: 28 Heavy Blasting Powder | TrainerLearn level not in the client; counted from 175 | 175 / 195 / 215 |
| 195–210 | ~19× Mithril Tube | 57 Mithril Bar | TrainerLearn level not in the client; counted from 195 | 195 / 215 / 235 |
| 210–215 | ~6× Hi-Impact Mithril Slugs | 12 Solid Stone, 6 Mithril BarMade on the way: 6 Solid Blasting Powder | TrainerLearn level not in the client; counted from 210 | 210 / 230 / 250 |
| by 225 | Learn Artisan first (from 200 skill, see the training table). Until you do, skill stops at 225. | |||
| 215–235 | ~28× Mithril Casing | 84 Mithril Bar | TrainerLearn level not in the client; counted from 215 | 215 / 235 / 255 |
| 235–245 | ~12× Hi-Explosive Bomb | 84 Mithril Bar, 72 Solid Stone, 12 Mageweave ClothMade on the way: 36 Solid Blasting Powder, 24 Mithril Casing, 12 Unstable Trigger | TrainerLearn level not in the client; counted from 235 | 235 / 255 / 275 |
| 245–250 | ~6× Mithril Gyro-Shot | 24 Solid Stone, 12 Mithril BarMade on the way: 12 Solid Blasting Powder | TrainerLearn level not in the client; counted from 245 | 245 / 265 / 285 |
| 250–255 | ~7× Dense Blasting Powder | 14 Dense Stone | TrainerLearn level not in the client; counted from 250 | 250 / 255 / 260 |
| 255–260 | ~8× Mithril Gyro-Shot | 32 Solid Stone, 16 Mithril BarMade on the way: 16 Solid Blasting Powder | TrainerLearn level not in the client; counted from 245 | 245 / 265 / 285 |
| 260–285 | ~26× Thorium Widget | 78 Thorium Bar, 26 Runecloth | Schematic: Thorium WidgetRecipe item, learn at 260. Vendor, drop or quest is not in the files. | 280 / 290 / 300 |
| 285–300 | ~15× Thorium Shells | 30 Dense Stone, 30 Thorium BarMade on the way: 15 Dense Blasting Powder | Schematic: Thorium ShellsRecipe item, learn at 285. Vendor, drop or quest is not in the files. | 305 / 315 / 325 |
Datamined Recipes, reagents and skill colours from the beta tradeskill data. Craft counts are our estimate: one craft per point while a recipe is orange, then the Classic skill-up chance from yellow to grey. See how the path is built.
Total materials for 1-300
- 259 Mithril Bar
- 243 Copper Bar
- 140 Solid Stone
- 108 Thorium Bar
- 86 Rough Stone
- 78 Bronze Bar
- 62 Iron Bar
- 44 Dense Stone
- 42 Heavy Stone
- 36 Linen Cloth
- 33 Wool Cloth
- 28 Silk Cloth
- 27 Weak Flux
- 26 Runecloth
- 21 Silver Bar
- 18 Medium Leather
- 12 Mageweave Cloth
- 8 SAF-T Tabs
- 4 Linen Cloak
- 2 Gold Bar
Crafted on the way and already broken down above: 70 Solid Blasting Powder, 53 Rough Blasting Powder, 40 Handful of Copper Bolts, 28 Heavy Blasting Powder, 24 Mithril Casing, 15 Dense Blasting Powder, 12 Unstable Trigger, 6 Gold Power Core. Keep them; the later steps use them.
Totals add up the estimated crafts, so expect a few more or a few less depending on luck on the yellow steps.
What Forever changes for Engineering
- Datamined Forever adds a family of safer and throwable explosives, the SAF-T and EZ-Thro bombs, with their own parts such as SAF-T Tabs and EZ-Thro Wrap. Daybreak Forever datamine
- Datamined Camping 101: Engineering sends you to a trainer for the Reagent Bot. The Dun Morogh version names Bronk Guzzlegear in Kharanos. Daybreak Forever datamine
- Reported The beta stopped characters at level 30, so nobody could train Artisan or test anything past 225 skill. Everything above 225 is untested in Forever. wow-professions.com
- Datamined A Engineering Certification costs 1,000 Merchant's Favor. Using it unlocks the title "the Engineer" for every character on your account, but a character needs 300 Engineering to show it. Daybreak Forever datamine
Engineering camp features
| Feature | Skill | Materials | Learned from |
|---|---|---|---|
| Reagent Bot | 20 | 1× Handful of Copper Bolts, 1× Copper Tube | Trainer |
| Repair Bot | 140 | 2× Whirring Bronze Gizmo, 1× Bronze Tube, 1× Heavy Leather | Blueprint: Repair Bot |
| Anarchist's Workbench | 300 | 1× Essence of Anarchy, 2× Thorium Widget | Blueprint: Anarchist's Workbench |
- Datamined Reagent Bot: you and anyone nearby can buy reagents from it. Daybreak Forever datamine
- Datamined Repair Bot: sells reagents and repairs gear, replacing the Reagent Bot when placed over it. Daybreak Forever datamine
- Datamined Anarchist's Workbench: a station some recipes require, powered by an Essence of Anarchy. Daybreak Forever datamine
Every camp feature needs a campfire nearby and they all share one 60-minute cooldown. Power spikes while leveling covers which camp buffs matter most.
Legacy perks that help
Bought per character with account-wide Legacy Points. Effects are the beta client's tooltips.
- Working Overtime 5 UnconfirmedRank 1: Increases your chance to gain a skill increase from using any primary, secondary, or class-based tradeskill by 4%.Max rank: Increases your chance to gain a skill increase from using any primary, secondary, or class-based tradeskill by 20%.Parts that go green early cost fewer bars with a better skill-up chance.
- Dedicated Study 1 UnconfirmedRank 1: Increases your skill by 1 in your lowest tradeskill among your Primary and Secondary tradeskills. If you have already reached 300 skill in your two current Primary Tradeskills and all three Secondary Tradeskills, you will gain 2 to 4 of a random Elemental Essence.A free point in your lowest tradeskill.
Making gold with Engineering
There are no Forever prices yet. These notes describe the Classic economy and are marked as such until launch data exists.
- Classic fallback In Classic, Goblin engineers could make Goblin Sapper Charges, a top PvP and raid explosive that only they could craft. Warcraft Wiki · Warcraft Wiki
- Classic fallback Classic Thorium crafts kept ore in demand at the top, so engineers who mine saved the most. Warcraft Wiki
More ideas on the gold making guide and the Merchant's Favor crates.
How this path is built
- Every recipe, reagent and skill colour comes from the Engineering data in the beta client, so the path follows Forever's thresholds, not Classic's.
- A program tries every recipe at every skill point and keeps the chain that uses the fewest raw materials. Crafted parts are broken down into what they are made of; finished goods and scarce drops count extra.
- Trainer recipes win over recipe items, and recipe items that are new in Forever count extra because nobody has confirmed where they come from.
- The client does not say when a trainer recipe can be learned, so we count such a recipe from the skill where it turns yellow. You can often learn it a little earlier.
- Camp features, cooldown crafts such as transmutes, faction-only recipes and recipes with rare reagents are left out.
Still unknown
- The trainer level requirements for Engineering ranks. We assume the Classic ones until a Forever source lists them.
- Which of the new gadgets need a specialization.
- Where the new SAF-T and EZ-Thro schematics come from.
Leveled it on launch and found something different? Send us a correction.
WoW Forever engineering FAQ
When can I choose Gnomish or Goblin Engineering in WoW Forever?
At 200 skill and level 30, the same as Classic. Guide writers expect the specialization quests to work unchanged.
What does the Reagent Bot do?
It is the first Engineering camp feature. Anyone at your camp can buy reagents from it. The Repair Bot upgrade also repairs gear.
Is Engineering worth it without Mining?
It is possible, but expensive. Bars and stone are almost the whole shopping list, so most engineers take Mining.
How many crafts does Engineering 1-300 take in WoW Forever?
About 394 by our estimate from the beta skill colours, in 25 steps. 3 of the steps need a recipe item instead of a trainer recipe. Luck on the yellow steps moves the number a little either way.